Wednesday, June 06, 2007

Goldwater Girls

I just watched the New Hampshire debate among the 8 Democrats a couple of nights ago. I'll support wholeheartedly any of the Big Three: Clinton, Obama, or Edwards, though at this stage I'm for Hillary.

One cool thing that Hillary said in the debate, when asked about gays in the military: "Barry Goldwater once said, 'You don't have to be straight to shoot straight.'" SNAP! This after asked if Bill Clinton's "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy had been successful. She said it hadn't, but that it was a very good first step.

Interestingly, Hillary was a Republican "Goldwater Girl" back in '64, when she was still in high school. As was my mom (though she was 23, and an emigrant from Germany to America at the time, having married my Air Force dad). My mom still has her gold-elephant-with-glasses Goldwater pin, which she wore at her department store job in Dallas... Even though it was conservative Dallas, the powers-that-be at the store made her take it off because it, and Goldwater, were too controversial for mainstream department store consumption!

Their "Goldwater Girl"-turned-Democrat common background aside, my mom still refuses to like Hillary. Mom thinks she's harsh and annoying (though she will vote Democrat, even if it is Hillary. And though she does like Nancy Pelosi). I've begged The Mom, who doesn't have cable and so hasn't watched the debates thus far, to wait until she's able to see Hillary in action---Seriously, Hillary is GREAT in debates; once you witness, you realize how utterly competent and well-spoken and non-harsh and sane she is.


David said...

I like Hilary but she needs to loosen up a wee bit. I certainly wouldn't want to debate her.

Anonymous said...

There's no question she is competent and well-spoken - she's a lawyer first and foremost. There's also not a word coming out of her mouth that hasn't been poll-tested multiple times with scores of focus groups. That's why she voted for the war in Iraq, and why she now says if she'd known then what she knows now, she wouldn't have done it - but she still won't say it was a mistake. She used the power of her husband's White House to cover up past misdeeds, and the deployed the resources of the entire federal government to attain a seat in the US Senate. Not that she hasn't done a very good job. But she got it because of who she was married to, and who she stuck by despite of years of serial infidelity. That's a role model for women? She is in the pocket of trial lawyers and was feted by Rupert Murdoch during her last campaign - the worst of both worlds. She is impressive and comes across as very sensible, but the country is in desperate need of change, and she ain't it.

Beth Austin said...

Replying to the Anonymous post: I completely agree that she's playing it mainstream. She's learned her lesson from the past---you can't be a Dennis Kucinich and get elected President in America. Sad, but true.

Though, as far as using "the power of her husband's White House to cover up for past misdeeds": Really, WHAT "past misdeeds"? I remember Whitewater in the early '90s, and the Clintons making $50,000 or something...THAT is a "misdeed" on the scale that they're operating on?

As for her deploying the "resources of the entire federal government" to gain her US Senate seat: Actually, the New York Senate race was to have been between her and Rudy Giuliani, before he dropped out because of his prostate cancer. That would have been some race, between two candidates with equally strong financial backing. The Giuliani replacement candidate was an ignorant lightweight.

As you said, since she was elected to the Senate, she's been "competent," "well-spoken," "impressive"... What's wrong with that?

I think she's definitely a "role model for women" in that she speaks plainly and intelligently and doesn't act subservient, and that she has her own ambitions. I also give her kudos for standing by her mate for so many years. No, not that "women in general" should "stand by their cheating mates," but that she publicly, as a person, stood by the person she loved. I'm a big fan of loyalty. And had that loyalty not been based on true feelings, Bill and Hillary would have divorced the second he was out of office.